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		By: T		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2016 04:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://randylewis.org/firebird-international-raceway-aka-wild-horse-motorsports-park/#comment-98309&quot;&gt;Randy Lewis&lt;/a&gt;.

Maybe it depends on the marketing? I went to races in 2014 at Washington DC and Long Island, NY and I thought the crowds were terrible. I went to Belle Isle last year for a double header race and they have a very good crowd both days. I went to their race at Fair Park in Dallas this year, and it also had a very good crowd. So for me, its about 50/50 good crowds, bad crowds. Both of the races in NY and DC were promoted by the same promoter (Andretti Sports Marketing), maybe they did no promotion? I have no idea.
I also went to races in Vegas in 2014 and 2015, they had nice crowds as well, though I suspect a large number of tickets were given away at SEMA, so i really can&#039;t judge that one at all. I truly believe the Dallas and Detroit events had good crowds though. The series is growing, and the fields of Supercars have been quite good the past few years IMO.
They always start 10 cars. In the FIA World RX series, they do get higher car counts, but they still only start 6 cars in the A-Main, so i think them starting 10 cars is quite good in GRC.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://randylewis.org/firebird-international-raceway-aka-wild-horse-motorsports-park/#comment-98309">Randy Lewis</a>.</p>
<p>Maybe it depends on the marketing? I went to races in 2014 at Washington DC and Long Island, NY and I thought the crowds were terrible. I went to Belle Isle last year for a double header race and they have a very good crowd both days. I went to their race at Fair Park in Dallas this year, and it also had a very good crowd. So for me, its about 50/50 good crowds, bad crowds. Both of the races in NY and DC were promoted by the same promoter (Andretti Sports Marketing), maybe they did no promotion? I have no idea.<br />
I also went to races in Vegas in 2014 and 2015, they had nice crowds as well, though I suspect a large number of tickets were given away at SEMA, so i really can&#8217;t judge that one at all. I truly believe the Dallas and Detroit events had good crowds though. The series is growing, and the fields of Supercars have been quite good the past few years IMO.<br />
They always start 10 cars. In the FIA World RX series, they do get higher car counts, but they still only start 6 cars in the A-Main, so i think them starting 10 cars is quite good in GRC.</p>
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		By: Randy Lewis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://randylewis.org/firebird-international-raceway-aka-wild-horse-motorsports-park/#comment-98190&quot;&gt;T&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi - There were two grandstands at the track.  I could see about one-third of the track from one stand and the rest of the track from the other.  However, the cars were very far away at points from the second stand.  My photo album will show you the view from each grandstand.

I always try to list some positives and opportunities for improvements (negatives?!) for each track I visit.  I agree with you that if Red Bull leaves this group they probably wouldn&#039;t be able to race without a top sponsor.  I always say the &quot;people vote with their feet&quot;.  I&#039;ve been to several of these events.  The crowds are small if there isn&#039;t something else tied to the event like a music festival, etc.  In Phoenix the crowds were super small.  

Best,

Randy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://randylewis.org/firebird-international-raceway-aka-wild-horse-motorsports-park/#comment-98190">T</a>.</p>
<p>Hi &#8211; There were two grandstands at the track.  I could see about one-third of the track from one stand and the rest of the track from the other.  However, the cars were very far away at points from the second stand.  My photo album will show you the view from each grandstand.</p>
<p>I always try to list some positives and opportunities for improvements (negatives?!) for each track I visit.  I agree with you that if Red Bull leaves this group they probably wouldn&#8217;t be able to race without a top sponsor.  I always say the &#8220;people vote with their feet&#8221;.  I&#8217;ve been to several of these events.  The crowds are small if there isn&#8217;t something else tied to the event like a music festival, etc.  In Phoenix the crowds were super small.  </p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Randy</p>
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		By: T		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2016 10:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i think you were a little overly critical about GRC IMO.
You mention the car counts, but they have consistently started 10 cars in the A-Main for the Supercars for at least the past few years. It was less before that, but the series is still new and growing. The series does have a long way to go though, and i can&#039;t see it surviving IF Red Bull leaves. I think they put on an excellent on track product though. And it is very fan accessible, full access to the paddock, the drivers are extremely fan friendly and are always willing to talk to fans, sign autographs, etc...
One question I have about this course, how was the visibility?
I have been to GRC races, but mostly at temporary parking lot circuits where you could see 90% of the track. Could you see much of them at this permanent road course? Or was the visibility more like a tradition road course?
Thought about going to this race, though one of my favorite parts about the series is that you dont have to miss any of the action due to being able to see 90% of the track from the grand stands]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think you were a little overly critical about GRC IMO.<br />
You mention the car counts, but they have consistently started 10 cars in the A-Main for the Supercars for at least the past few years. It was less before that, but the series is still new and growing. The series does have a long way to go though, and i can&#8217;t see it surviving IF Red Bull leaves. I think they put on an excellent on track product though. And it is very fan accessible, full access to the paddock, the drivers are extremely fan friendly and are always willing to talk to fans, sign autographs, etc&#8230;<br />
One question I have about this course, how was the visibility?<br />
I have been to GRC races, but mostly at temporary parking lot circuits where you could see 90% of the track. Could you see much of them at this permanent road course? Or was the visibility more like a tradition road course?<br />
Thought about going to this race, though one of my favorite parts about the series is that you dont have to miss any of the action due to being able to see 90% of the track from the grand stands</p>
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